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Navigating Podcast Advertising: 5 Key lessons from ‘Podcasting – The Balancing Act’ at the Podcast Show 2024.

Podcasting has traditionally been described as an “emerging media”. But, with a marketplace showing 23% year-on-year growth* (and worth an estimated value of £84million in the UK alone in 2023) it’s probably time it was recognized as an established medium that’s competing with other media channels for advertising spend.

With maturity however, comes increased responsibility. 

Bigger brands and advertisers are entering the podcast space all the time and with those big names comes big expectations. How can podcasting cash in on the increased interest in the medium, provide evidence of ROI for advertisers and maintain the authenticity and effectiveness that has made it such an attractive prospect in the first place? 

At this years Podcast Show at the Islington Design Centre in London, Sport Social Managing Director Sophie Hind hosted a panel discussion looking at the opportunities and challenges of advertising in the podcasting space and managing that delicate balance. 

She was joined by Thomas Balaam, Trading Director at Mindshare UK who has been selling audio to brands and advertisers for 20 years. Jake Storer, Influencer Marketing Director Podcasts at NordVPN, who use podcasting with great effect to market their products and Jack Milligan, Global Entertainment Director at Essence Mediacom who have used audio and podcasting as a key part of their media strategy activation.  

The trio joined Sophie to discuss their experiences of working and selling in the podcasting space. These are our five big takeaways from the discussion:

1. Finding the right podcast for the right brand is important

    The power of podcasting is still very much in the relationship between listener and host or show. 

    Whilst podcasting can offer large-scale awareness campaigns via spot advertising it’s “Secret Power” remains in its ability to speak to audiences in a way that most forms of mass communication cannot. 

    The ‘trusted voice’ of a podcast host when promoting a product or service is hard to beat. Listeners have a personal connection towards podcast hosts which enables personal endorsements and reads to be delivered in an authentic and impactful way. 

    With that in mind finding a synergy between brand/product and show/host is at the front of an advertiser mind when looking at which titles to work with. 

    We always find it so important that the host is fully on board with our product. Because I feel with their audiences, they’ll instantly know just by listening to them and how they speak that if they’ve just been given a scripted read it feels ingenuous. We want it to feel like a personal recommendation from a friend.

    Jake Storer, NordVPN

    2. You need a clear objective

      Understanding what you want to achieve with the campaign will help you develop the right podcast strategy. It offers a very different environment to most other mediums. 

      Do you want to educate about a service? Do you want to raise awareness of a brand? Are you trying to drive a response – visits to your website or purchase? Podcasting can offer everything from reach-based marketing campaigns to super-targeted brand messaging – so understanding your campaign objective is essential. 

      A question we get most of the time is; “What can I do in podcasting?”. It’s not too dissimilar to how you’d approach radio in terms of a strategic standpoint. But you’ve got to understand really what is it you’re trying to achieve because it’s so versatile.

      Jack Milligan, Essence Mediacom

      3. Podcasting is finding hard-to-reach audiences

      To paraphrase another famous advertising campaign: Podcasting reaches the places that other mediums cannot. 

      The ability for podcasting to target specific groups has not gone unnoticed. Be it by setting parameters around the delivery of audio inventory, (age, sex, location etc.) or by working with shows that have very specific and targeted audiences, brands and advertisers and using the medium to zero in on their desired target demographic. 

      This ability to find focused, hard-to-reach has bought more clients, brands and advertisers into the audio space who may not have considered audio previously. 

      I’ve seen brands that would work with me over the years that previously had not bought space on commercial radio because they didn’t feel that was their right audience. When it comes to the podcast space, we can actually go out and find that audience because there’s so much content out there that we know that can work for them

      Tom Balaam, MindshareUK

      4. Attribution has changed the game

      As podcasting has matured so have the methods for measuring success. 

      Traditional tools for campaign measurement such as voucher codes or unique vanity URLs have been replaced with full attribution tools that can track audience behaviour across digital media after hearing a podcast advertisement. 

      This development in technology is not only giving advertisers more confidence in the medium, it’s also giving us greater insight into audience behaviour and allowing podcasters to optimise plans based on that information.

      I think attribution is incredibly valuable if we want to keep advertisers coming back. The challenge for us has sometimes been, how we quantify what we’ve done within that host read or campaign.  

      The technology is getting better and better. We’re now starting to gather information on how long should we run the host reads for before we make a change? Or how long does it take for someone to actually take action after hearing the ad? How many times?

      Tom Balaam, MindshareUK

      5. PODCASTING ISN’T JUST AUDIO

      One of the big takeaways from the Podcast Show was the message that podcasting isn’t JUST audio. 

      The most successful podcasts use their show as a “content engine” around which other elements can orbit. The podcast is the IP but Live shows, paid channels, video content and much more are now all part of many the regular output. 

      This not only provides the opportunity to reach bigger audiences but also creates a whole new catalogue of content which can attract sponsors.

      There is a whole ecosystem of stuff around the audio. Podcasts are becoming brands. We don’t just think “Let’s just do something with the audio”. We work with all the other things that are going on around that.  

      Audiences don’t see in format style, they just see the brand and how they consume it and we have to think like that too

      Jake Milligan, Essence Mediacom

      If you’d like to understand more about how podcasting advertising could work for you or discuss ideas on how you could use the medium for your next campaign then our team of experts are happy to chat. 

      Get in touch: sales@sport-social.co.uk 

      *IAB ‘Surge in CTV & Podcast Spend’

      Here’s why Steven Bartlett’s ‘The Diary of a CEO’ podcast landed itself in trouble – and how you can avoid doing the same.

      The highly successful and impactful podcast ‘The Diary of a CEO’ which was created by Social Chain founder Steven Bartlett was continuing to make an impact this week, but not for the usual reasons.

      Barlett has found his podcast in trouble with the Advertising Standards Authority for avoidable practices regarding the promotion of a product, and Head of Sport Social – Jim Salveson – has shared his thoughts on the matter and how you can avoid your podcast having similar difficulties in future.

      Walking the tight-rope of Podcast Advertising – The Diary of a CEO case

      Podcasting is often described as the Wild West of audio; a new frontier where laws can be made up on the hoof and enforcement (such as copywrite infringement) is sporadic at best.

      Although this can be still the case as the relative infancy of podcasting as an industry does mean that rules and regulations can often be more reactive than proactive – things are slowly starting to change.

      A recent victim of these “new” rules is Steven Bartlett who’s hit podcast “Diary of a CEO” has recently had a complaint upheld against it for failing to make clear that a promotional section of the podcast wasn’t clearly defined as an advert to the listener.

      The complaint related to an advertisement for a food supplement called Huel and, despite Huel/Bartlett’s defense that no money exchanged hands for the promotion, it was upheld by the Advertising Standards Authority:

      “The CAP Code stated that marketing communications must be obviously identifiable as such, and that they must make clear their commercial intent if that was not obvious from the context.” 

      Advertising Standards Authority ruling

      You can read the full ruling and defence here.

      In this instance, I believe Bartlett has been unlucky. As a regular listener to the podcast, I’ve never been left in any doubt as to which parts of the show are host read advertisements and which are “content”. Not only is there clear separation of each element with a sound effect (a page turn) but the style and delivery is markedly different for each element.

      However, this ruling does indicate that this is an area in which podcasters will need to tread carefully in future. 

      Expertly integrated commercial content within a podcast is one of the podcasting superpowers. When done well, it can be a hugely effective way to deliver advertising campaigns, but it’s now more important than ever to ensure this is clearly defined.

      Huel was founded in 2014 and has began marketing through audio medium forms, namely The Diary of a CEO.

      This definition is important not just from a rules and regulations point of view,  but also from a relationship stand point. The authenticity of a host and the relationship they have with their audience is key to a podcast’s success and it’s commercial value. 

      The trust and sense of belonging that a listener has in their favorite podcast is what makes well delivered commercial messages so impactful – and nothing can shatter that trust quicker than the feeling from a listener that they are being conned or that a host who claims to “love” a product is only doing so for cold, hard cash. 

      Making the transition from content to commercial can be clunky, but adopting the same tactic used in commercial radio  by having a few simple phrases that make it clear that the listener is about to hear commercial activity, can really help.

      Transition phrases such as:

      •          We’ve teamed up with…

      •          We’re working with…

      •          Thanks to our friends at…

      •          We’ve collaborated with…

      •          Supported by…

      •          In association with…

      All the above do the job quickly and elegantly which can keep listeners happy – and your podcast out of trouble.

      Jim Salveson – Head of Sport Social

      MLS UK grabs a gong at the Football Content Awards

      Sport Social Podcast Network show “MLS UK” grabbed bronze for ‘Best International Podcast’ at last nights Football Content Awards.

      The show, created by UK based MLS Fans Henry Hewitt and Elliot Holman, follows the ins and out of “soccer” stateside from a uniquely British viewpoint. The show also tasted success at the event in 2020.

      Each year the Football Content Awards celebrates the very best from content creators across the sport and Hewitt says it was fantastic to be honoured (again):

      “After winning silver last year we’re really pleased to be on the podium again for our category, I know it’s become a bit of a cliche but the last 12 months has been really challenging for all content creators so it’s great to have had our work recognised in this way!”

      You can listen to The (award-winning) MLS UK show on the Sport Social Podcast network now.

      Listen to “MLS UK Show” on Spreaker.

      Sport Social Launches the UK’s ONLY dedicated Sport Audio News & Podcast Network

      Bringing together the biggest news and best sport content from around the world.

      Voiceworks.ai have launched the UK’s first dedicated Sport Podcast Network – marking the latest innovation from the voice technology and audio content company. 

      The Sport Social Podcast Network is a new podcast platform that will bring together sports content creators to help them grow and monetise their audience.

      Helping listeners discover the very best sports podcasts and audio news in the UK, the network allows podcasts of all sizes to access advertising and sponsorship whilst also encouraging cross-promotion between network shows – creating an opportunity for advertisers to buy a targeted sports audience through audio.

      Head of Sport at Voiceworks.ai Jim Salveson said;

      “With around 30% of Podcast listeners in the UK enjoying sporting podcast content we saw the opportunity to help support, surface and grow the wealth of great content that is already out there. Plus provide production, marketing and advertising solutions for talent wanting to create their own podcasts.

      We are bringing together some of the best content creators in sport under one roof, whilst helping advertisers to tap into a collective, engaged, targeted and hugely passionate audience”.

      The Sport Social Podcast Network will curate and launch new podacsts from sports personalities whilst continuing to deliver sport audio news via web, social media and voice assistants. It supplies podcasts to all major platforms including Apple, Spotify, Google and Podbean.

      Sport Social launches “Football Stories”

      Sport Social has today launched its new podcast series Football Stories.

      Hosted by Jim Salveson, Season 1 of the new show seeks to tell some of the more interesting (and lesser-heard) tales form the beautiful game. In each episode, Jim interviews someone who has had a big impact on the sport but has rarely made an impact on the back pages of the papers.

      The show provides a real insight into what life is really like in the game (and not just on the pitch) as we hear from the likes of Gary & Colin Lewin (Arsenal and England Physios) ex-Premier League referee Mark Halsey and former Chelsea youth prospect Dan McCarthy.

      “It’s been fascinating to hear about the game from some points of view that you rarely get access too. There are plenty more interesting stories to find in football… and I can’t wait to uncover them for season two!”

      Host Jim Salveson

      You can listen and subscribe to Football Stories now wherever you find your podcasts.

      Listen to “Football Stories”.